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	<description>David Gageot, Java &#38; Agile</description>
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		<title>Comment on Unit test verbosity by Skirmantas Kligys</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2012/01/27/unit-test-verbosity/comment-page-1/#comment-594</link>
		<dc:creator>Skirmantas Kligys</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 03 Feb 2012 04:38:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most likely because of management tracking lines of code per developer.  You get what you measure, not what you want.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most likely because of management tracking lines of code per developer.  You get what you measure, not what you want.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unit test verbosity by Johan Martinsson</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2012/01/27/unit-test-verbosity/comment-page-1/#comment-589</link>
		<dc:creator>Johan Martinsson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 23:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sad is the word. Though I find it quite funny :D (I suppose the further away you are the funnier it gets ...)

I&#039;m wondering what kind of reasons there can be for sucha a situation. I&#039;m not sure sheer incompetence of one developer is sufficient. Got any ideas David?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sad is the word. Though I find it quite funny <img src='http://blog.javabien.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_biggrin.gif' alt=':D' class='wp-smiley' />  (I suppose the further away you are the funnier it gets &#8230;)</p>
<p>I&#8217;m wondering what kind of reasons there can be for sucha a situation. I&#8217;m not sure sheer incompetence of one developer is sufficient. Got any ideas David?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unit test verbosity by JB.L</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2012/01/27/unit-test-verbosity/comment-page-1/#comment-587</link>
		<dc:creator>JB.L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jan 2012 09:00:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My I suggest you submit this code to TheDailyWtf.com ? This snippet sounds like a good fit for their already huge collection of WTFy code ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My I suggest you submit this code to TheDailyWtf.com ? This snippet sounds like a good fit for their already huge collection of WTFy code <img src='http://blog.javabien.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>Comment on Unit test verbosity by Eric</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2012/01/27/unit-test-verbosity/comment-page-1/#comment-586</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:31:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I end up with

@Test
public void can_obtain_a_customer_by_account_id() throws Exception {
  assertEquals(&quot;ABC99&quot;, serviceImpl.getCustomer(&quot;ABC99&quot;).getAccountId());
}
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I end up with</p>
<p>@Test<br />
public void can_obtain_a_customer_by_account_id() throws Exception {<br />
  assertEquals(&#8220;ABC99&#8243;, serviceImpl.getCustomer(&#8220;ABC99&#8243;).getAccountId());<br />
}</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unit test verbosity by Eric</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2012/01/27/unit-test-verbosity/comment-page-1/#comment-585</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My detailed response, with intermediate steps: http://ericlefevre.net/wordpress/2012/01/27/cleaning-up-test-code/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My detailed response, with intermediate steps: <a href="http://ericlefevre.net/wordpress/2012/01/27/cleaning-up-test-code/" rel="nofollow">http://ericlefevre.net/wordpress/2012/01/27/cleaning-up-test-code/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Unit test verbosity by Pierre Laporte</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2012/01/27/unit-test-verbosity/comment-page-1/#comment-584</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Laporte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:03:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My bad : 

- the exception logs only print the message which is already printed by the fail method, but does not print the stacktrace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My bad : </p>
<p>- the exception logs only print the message which is already printed by the fail method, but does not print the stacktrace.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unit test verbosity by Pierre Laporte</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2012/01/27/unit-test-verbosity/comment-page-1/#comment-583</link>
		<dc:creator>Pierre Laporte</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 18:01:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Imho, the saddest thing in this code, is that the log does not contain any relevant information. It just create noise :
- the first line give no information since maven already produce a per-method summary
- the exception logs only print the message and not the stacktrace, which is already printed by the fail method
- the last line does not tell that the test is successful even if it&#039;s the only possible case</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Imho, the saddest thing in this code, is that the log does not contain any relevant information. It just create noise :<br />
- the first line give no information since maven already produce a per-method summary<br />
- the exception logs only print the message and not the stacktrace, which is already printed by the fail method<br />
- the last line does not tell that the test is successful even if it&#8217;s the only possible case</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unit test verbosity by Cleaning up test code &#124; Eric Lefevre-Ardant on Java &#38; Agile</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2012/01/27/unit-test-verbosity/comment-page-1/#comment-582</link>
		<dc:creator>Cleaning up test code &#124; Eric Lefevre-Ardant on Java &#38; Agile</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:52:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] former colleague David just posted an example of verbose test code on his blog (the parts in French have been translated to English by [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] former colleague David just posted an example of verbose test code on his blog (the parts in French have been translated to English by [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Unit test verbosity by JP</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2012/01/27/unit-test-verbosity/comment-page-1/#comment-581</link>
		<dc:creator>JP</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Jan 2012 17:24:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Test
public void testGetCustomerOK() {
    Assert.assertEquals(&quot;Les accountId doivent être identiques.&quot;,
	    &quot;ABC99&quot;,  this.serviceImpl.getCustomer(&quot;ABC99&quot;).getAccountId());
}</description>
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public void testGetCustomerOK() {<br />
    Assert.assertEquals(&#8220;Les accountId doivent être identiques.&#8221;,<br />
	    &#8220;ABC99&#8243;,  this.serviceImpl.getCustomer(&#8220;ABC99&#8243;).getAccountId());<br />
}</p>
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		<title>Comment on Code Story &#8211; Devoxx France by Devoxx France 2012 et Code Story &#171; Sébastien Prunier</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2011/11/17/codestory/comment-page-1/#comment-529</link>
		<dc:creator>Devoxx France 2012 et Code Story &#171; Sébastien Prunier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 Dec 2011 13:53:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Le blog de David Gageot : http://blog.javabien.net/2011/11/17/codestory/ [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Le blog de David Gageot : http://blog.javabien.net/2011/11/17/codestory/ [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Code Story &#8211; Devoxx France by Mourad Najar</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2011/11/17/codestory/comment-page-1/#comment-505</link>
		<dc:creator>Mourad Najar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Dec 2011 11:51:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Si on est schyzo est ce que ça compte quand même comme un binome ou pas ?
Je sais pas si je peux combattre ma phobie sociale même pour coder avec l&#039;illustre Barbe Rousse !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Si on est schyzo est ce que ça compte quand même comme un binome ou pas ?<br />
Je sais pas si je peux combattre ma phobie sociale même pour coder avec l&#8217;illustre Barbe Rousse !</p>
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		<title>Comment on Devoxx France by Cédric Champeau</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2011/11/16/devoxx-france/comment-page-1/#comment-485</link>
		<dc:creator>Cédric Champeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 10:51:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;a href=&quot;#comment-482&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;@David Gageot Ok, dans ce cas, il serait pas mal, si vous avez une implémentation de référence of course, de disposer de la liste complète des résultats de 1 à 100, parce qu&#039;il reste une part d&#039;interprétation, je n&#039;avais pas compris ça. Implémentation Groovy corrigée sur GitHub ;)&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="#comment-482" rel="nofollow">@David Gageot Ok, dans ce cas, il serait pas mal, si vous avez une implémentation de référence of course, de disposer de la liste complète des résultats de 1 à 100, parce qu&#8217;il reste une part d&#8217;interprétation, je n&#8217;avais pas compris ça. Implémentation Groovy corrigée sur GitHub <img src='http://blog.javabien.net/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </a></p>
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		<title>Comment on Devoxx France by David Gageot</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2011/11/16/devoxx-france/comment-page-1/#comment-484</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gageot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Nov 2011 01:55:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oui</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oui</p>
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		<title>Comment on Devoxx France by Fred</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2011/11/16/devoxx-france/comment-page-1/#comment-483</link>
		<dc:creator>Fred</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 21:14:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Il est mentionné &quot;Votre code doit tourner dans une JVM&quot;, c.a.d que le code compilé doit tourner dans une JVM ?
Ca ouvre donc la porte aux langages &quot;JVM-based&quot; (Groovy, Scala, Clojure ...) ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Il est mentionné &#8220;Votre code doit tourner dans une JVM&#8221;, c.a.d que le code compilé doit tourner dans une JVM ?<br />
Ca ouvre donc la porte aux langages &#8220;JVM-based&#8221; (Groovy, Scala, Clojure &#8230;) ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Devoxx France by David Gageot</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2011/11/16/devoxx-france/comment-page-1/#comment-482</link>
		<dc:creator>David Gageot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 19:11:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Non, c&#039;est bien Foo. Implicitement, s&#039;il y a au moins une substitution, le nombre original n&#039;est pas affiché</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Non, c&#8217;est bien Foo. Implicitement, s&#8217;il y a au moins une substitution, le nombre original n&#8217;est pas affiché</p>
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		<title>Comment on Devoxx France by Cédric Champeau</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2011/11/16/devoxx-france/comment-page-1/#comment-481</link>
		<dc:creator>Cédric Champeau</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Nov 2011 13:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Il n&#039;y aurait pas une erreur dans les exemples ? 13, ça devrait être &quot;1Foo&quot;, non ?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Il n&#8217;y aurait pas une erreur dans les exemples ? 13, ça devrait être &#8220;1Foo&#8221;, non ?</p>
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		<title>Comment on Université du SI 2011 by Eric Le Merdy</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2011/02/17/662/comment-page-1/#comment-465</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric Le Merdy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 21 Feb 2011 15:52:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Gageot invente : La Réduction David Gageot. A quand la &quot;Vente Privée David Gageot&quot; ou le &quot;Groupon David Gageot&quot;. Exclusif et avantageux, très fort.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Gageot invente : La Réduction David Gageot. A quand la &#8220;Vente Privée David Gageot&#8221; ou le &#8220;Groupon David Gageot&#8221;. Exclusif et avantageux, très fort.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Soirée spéciale Tests Avancés au Paris JUG by ProxiAD vous parle d&#8217;IT &#187; Java Test news &#187; Paris JUG du 11 Janvier: Tu testes pas ? T&#8217;es so 2010 !</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2010/12/23/soiree-speciale-tests-avances-au-paris-jug/comment-page-1/#comment-415</link>
		<dc:creator>ProxiAD vous parle d&#8217;IT &#187; Java Test news &#187; Paris JUG du 11 Janvier: Tu testes pas ? T&#8217;es so 2010 !</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 13:49:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] David Gageot a la dure tâche d&#8217;animer toute la soirée, dédiée aux tests et en particulier aux moyens d&#8217;accélérer l&#8217;exécution et le [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] David Gageot a la dure tâche d&#8217;animer toute la soirée, dédiée aux tests et en particulier aux moyens d&#8217;accélérer l&#8217;exécution et le [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is &#8216;final&#8217; keyword always safe to add/remove? by David</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2011/01/14/is-final-keyword-always-safe-to-addremove/comment-page-1/#comment-414</link>
		<dc:creator>David</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 Jan 2011 09:01:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thank you those who tried to solve and understand this puzzler. We are indeed facing the classical &#039;binary numeric promotion in a mixed type ternary expression applied to an integer constant representable in type char&#039; problem...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you those who tried to solve and understand this puzzler. We are indeed facing the classical &#8216;binary numeric promotion in a mixed type ternary expression applied to an integer constant representable in type char&#8217; problem&#8230;</p>
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		<title>Comment on Is &#8216;final&#8217; keyword always safe to add/remove? by Olivier</title>
		<link>http://blog.javabien.net/2011/01/14/is-final-keyword-always-safe-to-addremove/comment-page-1/#comment-413</link>
		<dc:creator>Olivier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Jan 2011 17:54:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oops, Jcs&#039;s comment had not been yet moderated when I posted mine...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oops, Jcs&#8217;s comment had not been yet moderated when I posted mine&#8230;</p>
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